FL Group - Email (or other) Exchanges

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to Ayndryl
11:15 AM (9 minutes ago)✩
Hello there! I seem to have stumbled upon your site via reference, and a lot of what you are working on is rather interesting! Can you tell me some what you're trying to do, and what your goals are? Do note I am not an official laboratory, and it is better to think of me as just a singular individual with an open mind who has a willingness to learn everything I can get my hands on. Thanks for reading and am hoping you respond!
Ayndryl
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Light to you and yours,
11:22 AM (2 minutes ago)✩
We are trying to take advantage of particle physics in order to communicate with beings living in the extra dimensions. Though our - and theirs - bodies live in different dimensions, we both share the same space-time, hence we reason there must be a way to exchange specific particles to at least establish a two-way communication.
We hypothesize our biologies are dramatically different, but we reckon they too must be aware of the existence of particles which can traverse across the extra dimensions, therefore we try to use these particles as carriers of information.
That's what we are up to.

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Rick Fortress <gumdropfairy1987@gmail.com> to ayndryl
12:34 AM (8 hours ago)
As you well know by now, your website has resurfaced in the public eye' due to it being brought to our attentions during a certain campaign, so I may as well skip the introductions. I am simply an interested party and you are presumably the ringleader or liaison for the research group behind Forgotten Languages. I am going to ask some questions, and I do not necessarily expect an answer.
So. Cassini Diskus. A method to embed a universal language' into audiovisual stimuli if I am interpreting it right? What is this universal language? Surely it takes no form that human language is capable of. A way of talking to cells, perhaps, or does it have to do with your theory of ten dimensions and transmitting particles through the upper six dimensions that interact with a specimen in some way or form?
On that note, how can you be so certain there are ten dimensions? Modem scientists speculate about the existence of like thirty dimensions if I remember correctly. You must have the tools to perceive ten dimensions if you are so certain; if this is the case what is the nature of the upper six? You state that three dimensions are spacelike, and that a fourth is time-based. The fourth dimension has only been speculated upon however, and never confirmed to my knowledge. Speaking of time, your site has at least one article that seems to propose theories for combating the effects of malicious time travelers. The possibility of time travel in and of itself is staggering on its own, assuming the information on your site is the truth, of course, and not some crackpot fiction. But on the slim chance that your research is legitimate, can one make a connection between your theories on time travel and the veracity of the theory colloquially known as the Mandela effect"?
Finally, why is your site in plain sight? There are so many ways to hide it from people or put the information behind a login. One could argue that since you use such a unique language to communicate that you have no real need to hide. but portions of your articles are translated into English. Not only that, the translated portions aren't dull or mundane, they're intriguing. Let's skip all the reasoning and ask, is this because you want the site to be found? Because you want people to stumble upon it and watch your videos so that you may then indoctrinate them or experiment on them or whatever?
That is enough questions for now. I will anxiously await your response, and though I have little knowledge compared to you and your team I will answer any questions you may have for me in retum.


Ayndryl
2:37 AM (6 hours ago)
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-As you well know by now, your website has resurfaced in the 'public eye'
Yes, it happened before. This is something we find natural.

-you are presumably the ringleader or liaison for the research group behind Forgotten Languages.
I am the one who offered myself to keep in touch with people, yet we have no leaders.

-Cassini Diskus. A method to embed a universal language into audiovisual stimuli if I am interpreting it right?
That is correct, if, and only if, the beings you try to communicate with have eyes and a brain with the correct neurological arrangement. To communicate with plants, for instance, the setup is different. -What is this universal language?
Thoughts. Photons bounce off from objects, they then travel to your eye, and the are converted into neuroelectrical signals that your brain uses to perceive the object. If you can characterize and encode those signals and transmit them to the brain directly, you'll perceive the objects, even when they are not there. If you can devise a system that generates those photons and send them directly to the eye, you will perceive those objects, even when they do not exist. If we encode signals representing a beautiful dawn over a foggy sea and send those signals to your eye, you will see a beautiful dawn over a foggy sea, even if you are inside an empty room, even if there is no sun, no sea, no fog. how can you be so certain there are ten dimensions?
If Planck's mass is what it is, and if photons travel at the speed they do, there is no other solution to the field equations.
what is the nature of the upper six?
You do live in a 10-dimensional space-time. You, too, are a 10-dimensional being. You are a quantum being, too. That's the stuff you are made of. You cannot escape your condition.

- can one make a connection between your theories on time travel and the veracity of the theory colloquially known as the "Mandela effect?
The Mandela Effect' is a meme. It has a rational neurological explanation. Photon entanglement, actions at a distance, are not neurological effects, though. They are physical effects. if someday your civilization tames gravity, next step will be to tame Time.

-why is your site in plain sight? Is this because you want the site to be found?
We do not feel a need to hide. Now, consider this: when you explore space, you need to leave landmarks in order for other explorers to find you. Tell me, what landmarks would you leave when you explore Time? Anyone who wished to find us will do it the easiest way using a browser to find us. In order for them to be able to find us, we need keywords no-one else uses. You can perform a query in one of our languages, and the results of your search will show to you where we
are.

-you want people to stumble upon it and watch your videos so that you may then indoctrinate them or experiment on them or whatever?
No, we don't. We do not interfere with your people, and we are not interested in creating belief systems. We are deeply sad some people need to feel bad and scared, and that they use our videos as an excuse for justifying their nightmares and headaches. Our videos are also landmarks for explorers to get useful information that makes their exploration safer.

- I have little knowledge compared to you and your team
You don't. Believe me.

-I will answer any questions you may have for me in retum.
We have a question for you: what's the meaning of being bom, having dreams, hesitations, feeling fear, feeling happiness, if all you know about biology states you will pass away? We have a remark for you: you are indeed a courageous species if you live your life positively believing that, one day, you will die and that will be the end.

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to Ayndryl
11:30 AM (52 minutes ago)✩
I appreciate your fast response! Interesting, so in essence you're using particles as pseudo-microscopic emails to send information to what could be construed as "aliens" in the strictest sense of the word.
What has led you to believe there are living beings in the different layers of dimensions?

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12:21 PM (0 minutes ago)✩
Space-time has 10 dimensions. You live in space-time. It follows from this you do live in 10 dimensions. Your brain is neurologically set to perceive 3 spacelike and 1 timelike dimensions, but this does not mean the other extra dimensions do not exist. We wonder whether there could be other life forms who live in those extra dimensions, or a subset of them. We know some particles do travel across dimensions, hence we wished to probe those extra dimensions using those particles. We also wanted to know if the particles that come to us from those extra dimensions were doing so randomly, or in a structured way.
Buried deep among the noise of the incoming particles, we discovered a signal which has the potentiality of being "intelligent", that is, "non natural". We replicated the signal and sent it back.
Some people are interested in particles from the so-called "hidden sector" to use them as a way to implement interstellar communication (http://forgottenlanguages- full.forgottenlanguages.org/2015/06/interstellar-communications-using.html), others want to use them to communicate with those life forms living in the extra dimensions (http://forgottenlanguages-full.forgotten...ating.html), and others want to weaponize the use of these particles, either to use them as a cryptography scheme, or as a way to communicate with nuclear subs securely.
However, in my view, it is better to forget about all of the above, and focus on your beloved ones. We are all hunters, sometimes we predate, sometimes we are the prey. No matter how advanced a civilization is, it is bound to predate, and being predated. Now we wish you to answer a question for us: why is destroying your planet so important for you?

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Regarding the 2nd youtube channel (which is not of worth in my opinion and I haven't posted about yet but I will, as they lied about their interaction but if you wish the video is here: /youtu.be/gyWwIPCBgNo ) .... here is this email :

Ayndryl-ayndryl@gmail.com>
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Light to you and yours
Jan 12, 2019, 11:35 PM
Elder wrote to us an email on November, 28th, 2018, asking for an interview, as he runs a YouTube channel dealing with mysteries. On 29th, November, 2018, we replied via email we do not consider our community a mystery worth of his channel but that we could answer any question he may have regarding our community. We stated we would only answer through email, though. He then came back to us again with a battery of questions for us to answer
On December, 3rd, 2019 we sent to him our answers. Building upon those answers Elder created his video. I attach hereto the original answers we provided for you to judge whether the video pictures the truth of what we answered. As for why we allow negative connotations, insults, misinformation, or blatant attacks to our community the answer is this: we simply don't care, for we know life is short and we need to focus on our activities before we all die.
Peace to you and yours.
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1. What is the idea behind Forgotten Languages. Was it found among a group of collectives, or did it start as an individusl project?


The idea behind FL is to share knowledge. I do ignore who founded the group as such. The original name was 'lingua obliterata’, meaning 'effaced languages’ or, more

specifically, 'barren languages'. It refers to a group predating the birth of Christianity whose mission is the recovery of suppressed knowledge. The amount of Knowledge

currently available on the Internet is Just a small fraction of the available written knowledge as most of the information remains exclusively on paper in libraries, whether public,
private or personal.

Our mission is to gain access to that knowledge and learn from it.

2. What does your screen name mean, how is it pronounced and What does it reference, etymological roots?. (Where did you get the idea for it etc.)

‘Ayndeyl' means 'by the river', 'tree by the river'. 'Ayn’ comes from Nanks 'Awin’, meaning 'river', and 'Dryl' is the name of the tree of life, hence 'Ayndryl' means 'the tree of
Life by the river'.

3. How many people are involved with Forgotten Languages, writing papers, update posts, and theorizing?

There are currently 35 contributors to the web site. Each contributor is the master of his/her community. A community is a group of people interested in specific areas of knowledge.
There are big communities,

Like the Lilithians - whose master is Lyacryn - and the Sufis (Deyynsh), amounting to some SO people, and there are smaller communities, like Legio Disholica or the Circle of the
Kedeth, amounting to some 5 individuals.

only masters do post.

4. Why 1s the website called Forgotten Languages, is there a particular association that led to your name being such, given your vast choice of possible titles involving the numerous
languages found integrated into your website?

Please see answer to question 1. above.

S. Are the languages entirely crafted by your team, or is there some kind of particular process in forming them?

The languages are crafted by each community because each area of knowledge requires specific vocabulary and semantic space. The process for generating the vocabulary is mostly based
on phonosemantice, for we firmly believe there i a strong

connection between mind, sound, and power.

6. Why is this information for the public to see, if most of it is undecipherable to the average internet user?

This is so because our communities are spread all over the world, including regions where access to the Internet is hard and difficult, either due to political

reasons, or because the only coverage is via cell phones. Most users read the information on the site, study that information, extract knowledge, and exchange knowledge via the master
of their community, who

in turns posts whatever they feel will increase the global knowledge of the group. Bear in mind that only half the population on this planet has access to the Internet.

7. Do your uploads on YouTube have any kind of significance for the users of Forgotten Languages? You call them music and audiovisual projects created by your organization, and of
course, moreover, is the content created by a variety of users and not exclusively yow?

Videos in our channel are an alternative way to communicate knowledge. Music is a powerful way to induce altered states of consciousness that sometimes are required to access
primordial knowledge.

8. My team and I have read a number of your articles, and one particular segment in English gave reference to a set of beliefs that your organization might hold. with mentions of
Alchemy, and Theosophy and other forms of credence, we'd like to clearly establish what exactly Forgotten Languages values.

 

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8. My team and I have read a number of your articles, and one particular segment in Engpenitve reference to a set of beliefs that your organization might hold. With mentions of Alchemy, and Theosophy and other forms of credence, we'd like to clearly establish what exactly Forgotten Languages values.

Our axiology is based on the premise that consciousness is a state of matter, and that consciousness is a way to organize matter and energy in an efficient way to store knowledge about the environment and the Universe. This knowledge must be accessible to future conscious life forms to help them, in turn, to understand
the Universe. Knowledge is what guarantess Free Will, hence we believe knowledge is freedom. Knowledge comes in many ways of which language is just but one. Depending on how is knowledge encoded you need to take one or another approach to access it. This also implies that there are life forms with different biologies and mental processes, and if you wish to share knowledge you need to fully understand those life forms, and make then understand you.

9. In reference to God, would your deliberation of his image of him be that of an evangelical approach, or rather in reference to the dharma and the cosmic order of Hindi and Buddhist religions?

In our view, Religion is a way to encode a set of beliefs. It is a belief system, one of many belief systems, all equally important, and each of them being more efficient than the others for a specific knowledge. Yet, access to primodial knowledge requires to gain access to all of those belief systems.

10. Holding of course, to your mention as well that you may believe that the sciences and God are two sides of the same coin. So would you consider yourselves to be Deists and/or believe in God as a sentient being, or do you believe that science in a sense IS God.

We do not believe in the existence of God as a conscious Creator. We believe in matter and energy. We do believe in the idea of God as a vehicle to help people to organize their beliefs, but for us God, as a Creator, is not a premise.

11. If you have used original processes to create these languages, could you detail us through the significance of your process? I want to try and get an understanding of why you would make these languages and post the information within public space, would it not be easier to use an existing language and discuss the information privately?

Please, refer to our answer in question 6.) above. Languages do evolve as they are meant to encode knowledge about a changing Reality. We've reached a point in which existing natural languages are not efficient to explain certain areas of Reality. A good example is Physics, which is based on Mathematics, and that constantly fails to accomodate other key areas of Reality like, for instance, Metaphysics. How would Physics tackle the issue of Consciousness? How would you ever understand Dreams if you use Mathematics? And what about Language itself? Can Language be analyzed and described using Language itself? Isn't that cheating? One language encompassing all knowledge is not possible. You need an entire new rainbow of languages to understand such a complex entity as Reality. By 'language' we do here mean 'senses', too.

12. You have told me multiple times that communication is a process. Do you think that communication as an art has deteriorated over the past century?

Communication is just a survival strategy used by all life forms. All species use one or another form of communication. Language is just a small subset used by humans and those life forms who have a similar neural setup. Yet, language won't allow you to communicate with ants.
Your question about whether communication has deteriorated during the past century requires a longer reply. We think natural languages are slowly becoming less natural, and more artificial. This means mankind is going through a new stage in its evolution, and human biology is slowly adapting to a changin environment, hence
human languages are also changing. Whether this is a deterioration or an enhacenment is difficult to say. It all depends on whether you new way of communicating serves your purposes and goals, as a species.

13. What is the largest misconception, you believe about your organization Forgotten Languages and their platform.

We have no answer to this question.

14. If you could change something about our current existence what would it be, what would you see as a perfect society, why?

If we were able to change something in your current existence we would become gods, and that would kill free will and would turn your civilization into a mentored civilization that didn't learn to survive by itself.
We do not have the right to interfere with anyone's belief system. We are morally obligued to feel compassion and to help others without them noticing, but before helping anyone one needs to fully understand the consequences of helping.
Saving someone's life does not turn you into the owner of that life; not saving someone's life does turn you into a being not worthy of Consciousness. That's the dilemma that takes an entire lifetime to solve.

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In the above there are 35 contributors .... and as I currently consider that FL is a continuance of the Chani Project (started in 1994) .... I think that the 35, are the 35 countries with particle colliders!

Also remember that Ayndryl has stated that they have no leaders .... but within the above they have Masters?

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Some members of the group are physicists within quantum gravity field. Additionally, most of the math needed to 'recreate' a natural language is based on topology, fractal geometry, and non-linear dynamics. However, the posts you hit on physics are our discussions on how to encode math and physics information to non-humans, should the case arise.

Cassini Diskus is our encoding of all the 100 most cited papers from CERN (2006-2012). Most of them having to do with superstring theory. The idea behind is this: how to encode all of our current knowledge on particle physics to non-human civilizations, should the need arise in a near future.

Yes, you have our authorization to publish all the information so far.

Yours,

Ayndryl Reganah.

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An exchange ....
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Dear DaraghM and users, I'm the co-admin of Forgotten Languages Organization. Just registered to correct the statements made on our service: 1) Our service is not on conlangs, 2) Our service is non-commercial (there are no ads, no fees, no subscriptions whatsoever, no products or items on sale, no downloads) Our website belongs to the Invisible Internet: that part of the net that, though being indexed by the search engines, remain 'blind' to the public. We understand you are all language lovers, and we respect your feelings. But we are at the other end: anti-languages, and translation avoidance. Hope this clarify the nature of our site. Yours, Ayndryl Reganah, co-admin >www.forgottenlanguages.org, >www.shaleawangou.forgottenlanguages.org

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The last reply I personally got .... first my email ....

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Hi Ayndryl .... I wish you and yours to be well.

I have a question if I may?

I am still researching your information and while I now consider my first thoughts to be simplistic and woefully in error .... I have encountered an issue which I find limiting!

It is stopping me from moving forward as I cannot comprehend it.

My inquiry is:

Why can I not get anyone interested in your presented information?

No one wishes to help .... mainly they state that they 'fear' your website and do not want to be involved .... I consider that they literally can't view your presented information!

You have stated that your group expects 'interest' from time to time .... but it does seem that even those who define themselves as 'truth finders' do not wish to collaborate in a study of your site!

I am moving forward and now have approximately 200 of your articles along with old threads, emails and translated articles .... but it is a lonesome task.

There must be a reason that 'people' will not look?

While I do not watch TV .... I did see the first season of 'Westworld' and the current level of my research echos all that I have read!

Be well Ayndryl


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the Reply .... ****** is my name (or atleast the bodies lol)

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Light to you and yours, ******.

******, it may very well be the case that the information in our web site is difficult to understand, not just because we use forgotten languages, engineered languages, and cryptolects, but because we sometimes describe events not from this current time line. But there also exists the possibility that people is uninterested in the events we describe. Bear in mind that although FL is accessible to the public the public is not the intended audience, much as people of the 21st century is not the intended audience of ancient cuneiform texts.

You may find the inscribed tablets, but do not forget you are not the one for whom those tablets were written.

******, understanding something is far less complicated than trying to explain it to someone else. Teaching is more difficult than learning. The number of teachers is less than the number of learners, and the number of both teachers and learners is infinitely less than the number of ignorant people. Sadly, in the future this still holds.

Peace to you and yours.

Ayndryl.

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Hello again.
I'm sure by now you can tell we have made significant progress deciphering the contents of your public website. I've been utterly fascinated with it since first learning to read Ned. Your community has taught me so much about a variety of topics, from Celtic history and folklore to Hermetic wisdom and the concept of the seven rays. For this reason I just want to sincerely thank you for making this public, even if it does require months of effort to read. It's well worth it. I do, however, have some additional questions research proven incapable of answering.
1. At least some of the languages' names translate to English. For example, Weddag translates to English and Eska to Basque. Tainish possibly translates to Latin. Does this have any significance, such as regarding their source real world languages?
2. The website seems to treat the languages as real but in other communities that have discussed it you've referred to them as constructed languages and shared some technical information about how they're created. For instance, Alashi is referred to as a midway point between Elyami and Nashta, but elsewhere you refer to it as a conlang properly named Alashi-1330. Why is this?
3. Speaking of Elyami, it and certain other languages (Drizza, Shvati, etc) are referred to but not represented. Are they deprecated? Or non- existent? I've found Elyam to be Alashi for Edom. Is it related to Edomite?
4. The Dediaalif label especially baffles me. The formerly hosted PDF claims that it's an ancient 15 page book written in a Romani Celtic dialect but the material on Forgotten Languages is The Kybalion translated to Alashi.
5. Forgive me if this is overly personal but I've been poring over your work almost daily for months and yet still don't know much about the author. Do you have a favorite video, or language? Which of the recurrent themes are your personal interests?
Thank you again, both for your time and for providing the opportunity to do this. There are abundant passages of truth and beauty cited throughout the ocean of historical and metaphysical knowledge you have created. As always I wish you and your community all the best.

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Dear friend,

Though I am reluctant to answer emails regarding our community, yours was warm and polite, hence I decide to answer your questions.
1. Weddag translates to English because the language was engineered as resembling a highly Welsh-influenced Southern Anglo dialect. Eska does not translate to Basque, it translates to Iberian, the language spoken by ancient Iberian people in pre-Roman Eastern Spain; Belassur is her sister language. The significance is no other than applying the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis about language relativity to ancient languages. The strong version of that hypothesis states that language determines thought, and that linguistic categories limit and determine cognitive categories. We therefore reasoned that if we wish to understand ancient cultures, we need to make an effort to reconstruct their languages to the deepest possible level, such that in the end we could perceive the world the way the did and so, we could better understand their culture and civilizations.
2. Some of the languages in FL are real languages, in the sense that they are cryptolects, that is, they were devised by either religious or minority groups in order to avoid prosecution by the established powers (the Church, mostly). They are poorly or ill-documented in the scientific community because there is data lacking for a research. Using NodeSpaces, our proprietary software, we have tried to reconstruct as much of those languages as possible starting from scant evidence (manuscripts, references, glosses, etc.).
3. Alashi is the language in which the descendants of Asoka, called by The Nine, wrote their magical texts. Elyam is the name of the region extending from Northern Syria to Western India, including the valleys in which the Harappa civilization flourished, in Punjab. The Nine have survived through generations, and their language evolved accordingly receiving different names each time (Shvati, Drizza). Drizza - Driza, Drizel - is the name of a city where the followers of The Nine took refuge. Actually, it was more like a fortified monastery than a city.
4. Dediaalif is the name of a secret group of people, mostly Dervishes and Sufi, that gathered the information existing about The Nine and kept on with the tradition of translating their sacred texts for future generations. The way they do it is by tampering with existing languages and inserting, here and there, paragraphs in which they transfer their primordial knowledge. The language in which the books they wish to use to cover their knowledge are written are called carrier languages. Hebrew, Aramaic, Coptic, Latin, and Greek were the main carrier languages. Interspersed here and there, they inserted their corrections for initiated readers to find. Most of the books in the Nag Hammadi library - also known as the "Chenoboskion Manuscripts", or as the "Gnostic Gospels" - were used as carriers, that is: if you are not initiated, you won't be able to find the underlying knowledge. The same happens with the Bible.
5. There is no author, but a group of authors. If you pay due attention you will notice there are exactly nine authors, for Nine is our sacred number.
I hope my words be illuminating to you, friend.

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